How 4 Hour Work Week F’d Me Up
Jul 20th 2008
About a year ago I read 4 Hour Work Week, by Tim Ferris, for the first time. It motivated me to take a look at my business and my life. It truly inspired me to look at the things I was spending my time on and do more fun things. Do things I enjoyed doing, etc., etc.
You can see this video here from 11 months ago where I go to the zoo w/ my kids and talk about taking them to Barcelona for a month. And, yes, as I mentioned in the youtube video above, I’m still a strong believer that you should use your kids as reason, and not as an excuse. A reason to be healthy, a reason to have fun. Not the excuse to stay away from exercise, lay around the house, never travel.
Oh, and you can see some pictures & blog posts of that month-long trip to Barcelona on http://www.havekidsstilltravel.com and there’s even some videos here on the blog somewhere.
At any rate - that’s all good. But let me tell you how 4HWW F&$*#’d me up.
I cut out parts of my business that I actually enjoyed. I viewed them as time consuming for the return and didn’t want to ‘need to do them to survive’. I’ve focused more on income streams that develop recurring income. And I’ve got a great little team of people that I give many of my rote tasks to. Honestly, the recurring income is still under development … but it’s in motion.
This is all good and well, but half the time I’m bored out of my freakin’ mind!!! If it were 100% up to me, I would try to just travel the world for a year; but my wife won’t buy in to the idea right now. She’s 30 and let’s just say I didn’t marry her because of her “Susie Homemaker” qualities. Andrea is great at a lot of things, wants to feel productive, and deserves to be able to pursue whatever she wants to pursue. (Hint: she does not want to pursue a life of following Harris around the world with 2 toddlers in tow.)
Don’t get me wrong, we travel plenty - small trips right now since we just moved to Scottsdale, AZ from Minneapolis … unpacked, big house, checkin’ out the area, etc. So, we haven’t done any big trips since last October. But that’s fine.
My point is this — what’s the point of lowering your workload, if you don’t do anything <b>FUN</b> with your free time??
I certainly figured out that if you make a BIG GOAL (a mini retirement as described in 4HWW), it certainly does give you energy. But the bigger idea that I missed was this:
If there are things that I truly enjoy doing inside of my business, I should keep doing them! Don’t cut ‘em out just because they’re time consuming or don’t have as big of a direct ROI. Do ‘em for the pure enjoyment of doing them. Sure, a brotha’s gotta pay the bills — but a little while ago, I really was very close to bliss - having fun in my business, making kick-ass money doin’ it, and travelling quite a bit.
So, I’m turning over a new leaf. A year after 4 Hour Work Week, I hereby don’t mind if I have a 40 hour work week as long as I’m enjoying it. (And I think this actually *is* part of what Ferris was trying to say as well — DO WHAT FEEDS YOUR SOUL.) Hell, I don’t care if I’m “working” 80 hours as long as 76 of those hours are fun!
So, those of you that have been following me for a while - thus starts another chapter in Harris Fellman trying to define to himself what works best for him. Maybe some will work for you, maybe not. Thanks for stickin’ around - get ready for some more “Fun Harris” real soon.
Comments always welcome.
Harris Fellman
P.S. I just started on twitter — follow me if ya want: http://twitter.com/harrisfellman
















July 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Glad, man. Some of your shit was getting pretty sad. That while in the beginning I actually liked you. Hope you get your act together and start being… yourself again.
Goodluck. And good you understood the real meaning of 4 hour work week.
July 20th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
I too read the book about a year ago and have cut a lot of crud out as well, streamlining things that take up too much time. But if you love your business, I agree that it is truly up to you as to what you do with the time, but I think the point he tried to make was that he wanted to not only travel, but become a better person (learn languages, learn to dance, fight, or anything else he wanted…). But doing even those sorts of things with a wife and kids must be hard. I think its a matter of your vision for your life. I agree and disagree.
July 20th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Hey Harris,
I agree with you! I dove head-first into 4HWW - still pull it out every couple of weeks to have a look and check that I am focussed.
I have set a ton of goals, my husband and I are leaving for our first overseas trip ever in less than two weeks - and my daughter and I are going on a cruise in January
My kids are a bit older, (8 & 6) so they are keen to see stuff, and are a bit more independant than toddlers, which I love! I never want to go back to the baby thing again… lol
I like the 4HWW philosphy though, but for me I still work. I just do work differently now. I outsource the stuff that I don’t enjoy - and do what I love. I like to network, and so now chatting with people in twitter, yahoo, forums etc is my job. I still have to get a bit better at getting my outsourcing team to work more efficiently, but it’s all a bit of fun
TBH I think the 4HWW thing helped me be more productive. I haven’t really saved a lot of time as far as work goes just yet, because I am still building my business - but I hope to be able to build it a bit faster using these ideas. I don’t know that I could work for 4 hours a week - I love my job too much. I’ll see if I still think that after we have come back from our overseas trip.. hehe
July 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Hi Harris,
A great post.
I have been trying to follow Tim Ferris 4 Hours work week and see similar challenges.
However I completely agree with you with the fact is do the work you love irrespective of amount of time you spend doing it.
In fact I have a rule, if I do something which contribute anything towards my passion I break the rule and try to do it given the time I have in hand.
I liked this post very much..
Thanks for sharing..
Regards,
-Gaj
July 20th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Totally with you, dude! You gotta do what you love, and If you love working, you gotta do that!
July 20th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Show have stayed on the farm Olaf lol.
Its not the 4hww its the AZ sun!
July 20th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Hi Harris
Right on man. I agree! its ok to work lol
Brian
July 20th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Glad you didn’t try to outsource Sal!
welcome back!
Howard
July 21st, 2008 at 3:05 am
Hi Harris,
Congratulations! One of the things I love about being an entrepreneur is the power and freedom of being able to define what works for me in my business - and getting to choose to set it up exactly how I want so it gives me what I need and want! I agree with you - working feeds my soul and makes me happy…Will watch with interest as you redefine that for you. I’m following you on twitter now, to make it easier. Have a wonderful Monday!
Warmly,
Cheryl
July 21st, 2008 at 3:18 am
Harris,
I work all the time and I enjoy it. I fell about 3 years ago and broke many, many bones. I am just getting to the point that I can walk with a cane. However, the pain is a 12 on a scale of 1-10.
I am learning internet marketing and outsourcing. This takes my mind off of the pain. I had to quit my former career because I cannot travel anymore. So the internet is it.
People who quit and retire usually live shorter lives. The mind has to be stimulated. If travel does that for you, great but don’t sit down and watch TV!
I always think of the Jewish store owner and the protestant farmer who met each other at a local dinner for breakfast every morning before going in to check on the shop and farm. They had known each other since they were children.
Once I heard them talking about how lonely they were when their friend of 89 had died. Without their businesses they would die they said. They both agreed that retirement was not a biblical concept. One was 93 and the other was 96 years old.
Working is good for the soul and mind. Working four hours is not for me. As long as I love what I am doing, I will play and work. Then I will play at working. Then I will work while playng. Then they will carry me out of the church feet first.
July 21st, 2008 at 4:00 am
I agree with the second post here Harris, I have only skimmed your emails for a while - as you seemed to lose the passion you once had.
It will be nice to see that return
As for the book - I’ve never read it so I can’t comment.
All I can say is what I’ve believed for a few years now…
If you do what you really love, and outsource the rest - Then you’ll never work another day in your life!
I love what I do - so it never seems like work.
I “Play” on my computer for a few hours each day - and if I want to go out with my family I do.
Hey - I’ll never earn the cash the big boys do - but that’s fine with me … I’m too busy just loving life!
I look forward to seeing your next emails and feeling your passion as you get back to doing what you love… And I sincerley hope it still gives you plenty of time with your family too.
Regards
Randy Smith
http://www.RandolfSmith.com
July 21st, 2008 at 6:23 am
Hi one n all … thanks Harris received your email just now so popped in to check this “I’m turning over a new leaf starting today” blog post out
This time online factor has been in my mind for a while now …. So I have a question for you? … is it passable to build a residual income online by working say 2 hours a day 7 days a week … if the answer is yes … how would you go about this … what kind of work disciplines would you put in place to be able to get the best kind of exposure to gain the traffic needed to make these two hours highly producible because time online can suck dry a large part of most folks days time frame …
How would you spend your 2 hours must do time slot on! every day … I think if you or any one could show this formula it would attract a lot of comments and would be good thread topic for interaction … we all need to be focus driven to be able to feel satisfied we have spent 2 productive hours doing something that satisfies the inner workaholic most successful online marketers seem to have.
All my best to you and your next couple of hours
Phillip Skinner
July 21st, 2008 at 8:24 am
Harris,
Good on you, man! So what activities specifically are you going to kick into gear again? What will you begin filling your time back in with?
…jp
http://REItips.com
July 21st, 2008 at 8:30 am
ha ha
I read that danged book, and I didn’t get much from it….why?……beacause I ALREADY had the perfect life for me…….
I’m not a huge fan of traveling the world, or goofing off at the beach. I already live in paradise, so much of the book made no sense to me.
Anyhoo, kudos to ya Harris…
chuck hall
http://www.CarvingTricks.com
July 21st, 2008 at 11:51 am
Most internet Marketers do the 4 hour sleep week and don’t tell you about it. Expecially during launches.
Here is a interesting video - CNBC’s Donny Deutsch debated Ferriss, arguing that hard work and longer hours will always trump shortcuts and gimmicks.
Watch here ->> http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&vid=784332df-40a6-40cf-87ff-81691ca2eeaf
July 21st, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Thanks for all your commentSs…
jp - I don’t want to commit to anything just yet.
But I have the most fun when I do videos, characters, etc.
Also, wanna get into more Social Media (like this blog, twitter, etc.).
phillip - *yes* it’s possible to build a passive income with just 2 hours a week… although, if I was still workin’ a day job - I would take a week or two off at some point to really crank the project out.
And what *I* would do is different than what *you* might do — firstly, you said “a passive income” — I’m hoping you mean enough income to quit your job or supplement it heavily or something like that…
*I* would do exactly what I did to break into this market. (A teleseminar series interviewing ppl and selling their products at the end of the call.)
But there’s many options.
The basic components are the same though:
1) Pick a niche
2) Find some affiliate stuff to sell
3) Put up a squeeze page & build a list
4) Think about setting up a bunch of
auto responders for extra passive leverage
5) Send some traffic to it.
5 - I used to always recommend Google PPC
But, Google’s gettin’ really tough to get
STARTED in some niches. I’m tryin’ to get
some decent traffic from it right now and
it’s taking a lot longer than “INSTANTLY”.
And finally, click on Matt Bacak’s name above
and sign up for anything you can get from him.
He knows his stuff, and knows how to teach it
to people just starting out very well.
Peace,
Harris
July 21st, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Great post Harris. Sorry you had to go through a dark time to realize following your passion isn’t work.
I always keep in mind what Tom Hopkins said at a seminar I attended in my early 20s:
Don’t ever do anything you can hire someone else to do at less than your own hourly rate…
Unless it’s therapeutic.
He mows his own lawn.
Thx,
Vince
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:41 am
(this was originally sent via email)
Harris
Just read your blog post about the 4 hr. workweek.
I totally agree about doing what you Love or what drives you.
Tough decisions about traveling (or not to) but often day trips are the best. As I write this my family is on their way back from the beach. I stayed home and did some household chores without help (if you know what I mean).
So here’ something I hope you will use on your next trip with the kids even if it’s just to the grocery store.
Go to: http://www.MobiStories.com pick a few books and at checkout use code pub1024. This will let you download them at no cost. Enjoy and let me know if the kids like them.
My daughter learned to read on the way to grandma’s (a 3 hr. ride) via the iPod. It’s a different world for children today and we need to give them every opportunity we can to let them flourish in their own special way.
All the best,
Rick Toone
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:43 am
(This one also from email; who said
I was comin’ out with a product???)
Harris,
This is the first that I knew you had a blog. Thanks for sending it to me.
I always read your comments and watch those crazy videos.
I made a couple of posts to the blog.
When is the new product coming out? Can you give me a hint as to what it is?
Thanks.
Gary Carter
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:32 am
Harris, I think I’ve seen you at your best when you’re creating characters to tell a story and build anticipation for product launches/releases. All that other stuff seems to be your “the rest”…
Cheers,
Ross
http://twitter.com/ross_yingling
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:47 am
I see my friend Patricia Reszetylo is here . Good to see you - i havne’t read the book but i’m begining to focus more on what needs to be done . I want to be intuitive about when i need some fun and i take it when i feel the need. I’m still working on putting things together for an online project , this has been a long road doing it all myself . Have learned alot , one to stop crying about what needs to be done and how much work it takes to get there. With that said i work on keeping the end in mind and take time off sometimes along the way …
john Silveira
http://Farrieritis.Care4Horses.com
http://www.Care4Horses.com
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 am
Hey Harris,
I totally think your right on this topic.. Lots of people debate this issue and think working less means more happiness and somehow more money as well…? I’m a believer that if your 100% passionate in what your doing, helping others, and people actually see that- then you have no other choice but to be Successful and achieve the ‘things’ your wanting out of life.. So if your working 80 hours a week like you stated ad having the most fun times in your life and impacting children, adults / any type of people- with out a doubt you will be Successful and happy. This is something I’ve learned myself a little while back and it’s changed my life as well.. Thanks Harris for all your great information and were blessed to have such a great mentor such as yourself!
Living Life without Limits,
-Ryan Allaire
July 22nd, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Aloha Harris,
Never was a fan of the 4 hour work week so I’m glad
you came to your senses. I tried pitching the 140 hour
work week to Wiley, but they wouldn’t budge. ahh well
i guess 4 hour work week sounds sexier - but it sure is
NOT sexier in reality.
Welcome back!
& Thrilled you added Twitter to your new work week.
Yaaaay! Let the Sal Fun Begin!!!!
@CoachDeb
July 22nd, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Hey Buddy,
Great to see you take the dive into the deep end of Twitter.
You like all of us are a work in progress and as you stated, you want to have fun when you are working.
Test and Tweak…Test and Tweak, products as well as working style.
Somewhere between Ferris 4 hours and Deb’s 140 is bliss:)
I second your comment about Matt Bacak.
@MitchBaldwin
July 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Hi Harris,
Thoughtful and revealing post RE 4hrww. Thanks.
A couple reflections–
If it is something you enjoy doing it is not a waste of time as long as it doesn’t cut in to the really productive things that you do. It’s all about balance.
Mark Victor Hansen suggests writing out your life time goals and setting out to achieve them very intentionally. I think he keeps a list of 100 or 101 goals. If you concentrate your other 36 hours per week on accomplishing lifetime goals you won’t get bored and you should have no problem filling up the time with things you are passionate about. Of course, if your lifetime goals all have to do with travel your wife might object…
BTW, thanks for recommending Twitter. It’s one of those useful diversions. Amazing how fast the list grows.
Liz Nichols
http://www.twitter.com/liznichols
July 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Yes I agree totaly. You got to like the business to stay with it And not reduce your workload case it bores you
July 29th, 2008 at 9:04 am
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